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Title: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: PaShaleAdvocate on January 12, 2018, 06:53:32 AM
It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices

Governor Andrew Cuomo’s bad policy decisions on pipelines and fracking in New York are causing northeast gas prices to skyrocket.

http://naturalgasnow.org/stupid-is-as-stupid-does-on-northeast-gas-prices/
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: Wax on January 12, 2018, 11:29:09 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 16, 2018, 08:36:43 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: Wax on January 16, 2018, 09:23:00 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj

Russian royalty checks wj.

The Gaselys tanker is due to arrive in Boston on Jan. 22 after loading fuel from storage tanks at the U.K.’s Isle of Grain, according to ship-tracking data compiled by Bloomberg. The vessel docked at Grain shortly after the terminal near London received the first cargo from the $27 billion Yamal LNG plant in Russia’s icy north.

“Gas from anywhere is profitable into that northeastern U.S. gas market as prices are the highest in the world,” said Trevor Sikorski, head of natural gas, coal and carbon at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London.

https://www.lngworldnews.com/uk-sends-russian-lng-to-us/
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 09:36:01 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj
  do you really think it's those receiving  royalties or is it the middle guy    you would think that by the time it get's in the tanker  all cost & royalties would be paid at a predetermined price & it's now in the brokers hand   to try to get as much as he can for it  I'm sure at times he loses but other times like the last couple times he wins big
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 16, 2018, 10:07:49 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj

Russian royalty checks wj.


Russian gas is not privately owned the way it is here.

but suffice it to say that royalty owners who are receiving checks here in nepa are doing very well.

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 16, 2018, 10:12:01 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj
  do you really think it's those receiving  royalties or is it the middle guy    you would think that by the time it get's in the tanker  all cost & royalties would be paid at a predetermined price & it's now in the brokers hand   to try to get as much as he can for it  I'm sure at times he loses but other times like the last couple times he wins big

we're never gonna cash in on every aspect of the gas business rat. I'm happy that we are finally exporting now that Obama is gone, because well...Obama is gone, but also it is a new market and reduces the glut.

I'm happy, aren't you happy?

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: Wax on January 16, 2018, 11:33:37 AM
Who is getting rich on those high prices ?

pretty much anyone who's getting a royalty check wax.

wj

Russian royalty checks wj.


Russian gas is not privately owned the way it is here.

but suffice it to say that royalty owners who are receiving checks here in nepa are doing very well.

wj
The topic is on, the New England sky high market. If Pa. gas was in that market, royalty owners would be doing better yet.
A lot of money being made by traders in the Russian market. I was aware all minerals in Russia are owned by Gov.  But, kind of like, US Gov land, and water rights.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 11:41:07 AM
happy as happy can be  but all this can turn around in a heart beet    if the dems regain control   
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: kodaz on January 16, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
And yet somehow I have not seen a gas check from good ole Ches for 3 months.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 16, 2018, 12:19:10 PM



  Has the unit been producing gas ?
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: Wax on January 16, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
And yet somehow I have not seen a gas check from good ole Ches for 3 months.
Yep! not everyone is a "partner" in lease language. :(

“How is that going to help the lady in Terry Township who got a bill for $186,000 on a little over 20 acres?” said Commissioner Daryl Miller. “It’s a drop in the bucket.
https://www.thedailyreview.com/news/local/commissioners-chesapeake-royalty-settlement-proposal-outrageous/article_4d5ec9c0-ec53-11e7-a876-5f0d7ae823ed.html
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: kodaz on January 16, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
Stat been paying on it, so I will guess it is producing.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 16, 2018, 03:59:31 PM



  Negative royalty. Been there. ???
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
?  what's stats minimum  pay amount   what's chessy amount    what percent does chessy have what percent does  stat have  I would like to get full story on lady in terry    did she pay it was she already paid that amount by mistake was it just a clerical era did she have a off the wall lease
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 04:08:11 PM



  Negative royalty. Been there. ???
you received a bill which you paid?
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 16, 2018, 04:42:58 PM



  No, did you. Of course not. You get 20% with no deductions.
 Go away.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: windycamel on January 16, 2018, 05:07:34 PM
yep. stupid is as stupid does. I got to get more into the entertainment value of this forum. where by one can really enjoy learning. :)
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 05:08:36 PM
your post made it sound like you did care to explain
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 16, 2018, 05:28:35 PM



  Care to explain why you care.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 16, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
so it's not true   you didn't receive a negative royalty  you didn't get charged    if you didn't you shouldn't make false statements  it'll hurt newcomers to the site
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 16, 2018, 07:42:55 PM



  Well technically, on Chesapeakes books, it would be a negative number. Whether or not they are subtracting that much from future royalties is still up in the air. They have done it the past. Are they still doing it ? Why don't you let us knpw.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 17, 2018, 04:54:10 AM
so really don't know  could be they over paid at some point  just recouping there money  never seen a negative statement  post a copy  ?   knpw?
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 05:02:16 AM



  Again, you are a no deduct 20 percenter. Good for you. There are thosands of people in NE PA that have been ripped off by Chesapeake for many years. You and others have tried to tamp down that topic here.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: ghrit on January 17, 2018, 05:31:11 AM

 Go away.
Matty, reading that leads me to think you're feeling all butt hurt about something.  One of these days, it might occur to you that it's your own posts that draw attention leading to anal pain.  You may lessen the pain by going away yourself rather than demanding it of others.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 05:42:42 AM



  Not going away. Hopefully Chesapeake is. ???
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 05:50:42 AM


  G, this is not your fight either. I have friends and family that are getting ripped. You also have a no deduct lease and are not even with Chesapeake. Why are you chiming in. Rat is some sort of Chessie groupie. We all know that.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: riverrat on January 17, 2018, 06:17:56 AM
just looking for facts   most off your post belong in the fiction  worthless  sections  along with the jug of brown water  mostly fiction tho
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 06:23:36 AM



  I know. Fake News. Keep trying.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 17, 2018, 06:53:26 AM

 Go away.
Matty, reading that leads me to think you're feeling all butt hurt about something.  One of these days, it might occur to you that it's your own posts that draw attention leading to anal pain.  You may lessen the pain by going away yourself rather than demanding it of others.

some will choose to understand and plan, others like matty, will choose to wallow in ignorance and self pity and hope that others will join his pity party.

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 07:13:33 AM



  Not a pity party. I was waiting for you. Another no deducter.
 Its pointing out facts. Numbers dont lie. Its coming to head but many have been cheated and that money will never be recouped.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: ghrit on January 17, 2018, 07:36:22 AM


 Why are you chiming in.
Because your incessant whining and raving about CHK has become very old, and is making you no friends nor arousing sympathy for you or that mythical myriad you claim exists.  It is especially egregious for you, a non resident, to be dipping your wick in our lamp oil.  With all those friends and family that are getting ripped off, one would suppose they could speak up for themselves, yet we have crickets.  The fact that they don't chime in sorta points to you creating a fake, phony, mythical clan that you can claim you speak for.  In other words, I no longer believe you if indeed I ever did.

Shakespeare said something in one of the plays about a ghost.  I'll paraphrase it here.  "Get thee gone" and let us real residents of the gas field deal with what affects us.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 07:53:26 AM



  Coming from a 2 acre stake that has no bearing on the biggest issue in the NE gasfield.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: kenneth12 on January 17, 2018, 09:09:33 AM
  Not a pity party. I was waiting for you. Another no deducter.
 Its pointing out facts. Numbers dont lie. Its coming to head but many have been cheated and that money will never be recouped.
Oh, OK!  Since I have the same lease as Kodaz and also have not seen a CHK check in three months (but StatOil has been dribbling again the whole time) I guess maybe that I meet your high standards  headpat.  YOU ARE HAVING A PITY PARTY!!!  And it IS getting old and your irrationality can indeed be confusing to any newcomer here who just might think that you pass along accurate information.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: macal on January 17, 2018, 10:15:21 AM



  You have other issues also. Screwy lease terms. You are not typical boilerplate. I'm with McClinko. Im jumping up and down. Fix this.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: ghrit on January 17, 2018, 10:51:25 AM



  Coming from a 2 acre stake that has no bearing on the biggest issue in the NE gasfield.
So you are qualified to determine who's stake matters?  OK, yours is biggest.  That's settled, you win.  Now "Get thee gone."  (Two acres is grossly inaccurate, by the way. )
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: kenneth12 on January 17, 2018, 11:12:30 AM
  You have other issues also. Screwy lease terms. You are not typical boilerplate. I'm with McClinko. Im jumping up and down. Fix this.
Now if only you'd hold your breath...
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: Wax on January 17, 2018, 11:37:13 AM
The forum has, about ten members who post. And those folks, know each others comments before they are posted. The forum (cpu) itself, follows every search by guest and members. Most of the post looked at are old post. And very few people are willing to share their views. That does not mean they do not have a opinion. I thought their was several class action suits against CHK ? And a case by the DA. And it's all because they screwed only Cal ? I heard the word, "thousands" in Bradford County alone, spoken by a county commissioner. I will tell you this. Their is not a lot of noise on this forum, but many, many, many complained to get this movement started. And it an't over till its over. And as usual, those who done nothing at all, will benefit, by the sweat and toil of those who worked for everyone.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 17, 2018, 12:05:52 PM
And as usual, those who done nothing at all, will benefit, by the sweat and toil of those who worked for everyone.

and posting incessant, inaccurate, hyperbolic drivel on this forum is doing pretty much nothing.

is there an issue with chk involving thousands in bradco? yup.

are there people who are getting bills for deductions that exceed their royalty income? nope. that would violate their lease terms.

will there be a settlement with chk? sure will, and how good that settlement will be, is not affected by some anonymous nitwit saying over and over that he wants chk kicked out of the state. such statements are ridiculous and serve no useful purpose.

we 10 or so posters here are a remnant of a once vibrant community that existed before, and dwindled after the arrival of macal.

but yes, some folks are doing actual good work regarding the chk situation. you just can't hear them above his incessant whining and lying.

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: shinobi on January 17, 2018, 01:01:01 PM
It is straightforward, really:

The entity known as "Chesapeake Energy" is an Oklahoma-based criminal conspiracy masquerading as a gas company, a development company, whatever.  Nothing could be more simple.

I was going to attempt posting examples from all around America of their "operations" and the resultant AA (adverse actions).  The task exceeds my ability.  Examples are far too numerous to detail individually.  But focus on their thievery in Bradford County, or even in Pennsylvania, exemplifies unvarnished myopia.  Chesapeake cheats at will wherever they operate . . . . and that includes venues far too numerous to mention.  Chesapeake pioneered and continues to champion the business approach whose touchstone is:

"If you don't like it, take us to court"

To wit:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=chesapeake%20energy%20lawsuits&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=chesapeake%20energy%20lawsuits&sc=8-26&sk=&cvid=0ADB215469EB4858911748673C1D410D (https://www.bing.com/search?q=chesapeake%20energy%20lawsuits&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=chesapeake%20energy%20lawsuits&sc=8-26&sk=&cvid=0ADB215469EB4858911748673C1D410D)

But that is overwhelmingly inadequate.  It would literally consume several days to aggregate news of all the AA aimed at Chesapeake Energy.  I have far better uses for my time.
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 17, 2018, 01:48:42 PM
sure frank, we all know the story, the history with chk. many of us knew it when we signed with them.

so what's your solution going forward? go over and over and over the past? lamentations and lies?

or is it to weigh our options, and make the best decisions when the settlement finally comes?

for years I've been saying this. THERE WILL BE A SETTLEMENT!

if you have a better answer, I'm all ears.

wj
Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: shinobi on January 17, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
Frank?  Are you by chance addressing me?  My name is not Frank.  I have never posted my real name on the net.  You may address me as "shin", if you wish.  I will address you as "wj" when wanting to be respectful.  I will address you as "aubrey" when wanting to liken you to shit.

And I never claimed to have a solution to Chesapeake's unrivaled illegalities, or for that matter a solution for the devil himself, an entity akin.

Instead my ongoing, overflowing, contempt for them proceeds from my lease.  While I'm not leased to the Chesapeake criminals, I signed a lease which allows my current gas company to sell their leased interest in my land as suits their business needs.  I believe many leases contain this provision.  Hence I, and many other forum members, are theoretically at risk so long as the Chesapeake criminal enterprise survives.

My anti-Chesapeake posts also are intended to inform newcomers to this forum who might have been approached by Chesapeake to lease their land.  People need to know the depth of depravity and unbridled lawlessness at Chesapeake, a scum-sucking entity of the first order.  And to that end, repeated recitation of such facts cannot be excessive.  This is by definition.

Now, wj, you inquired about Chesapeake's past lawlessness and bad behavior in general.  There we agree.  Of course all that stuff will eventually be settled in court or by negotiation, as was Chesapeake's business plan from the jump.

Let me sum up this way:  Anyone who leased their land to Chesapeake has a lease not worth the paper upon which it is printed.  If Chesapeake has not yet broken their commitments to you, they simply have not yet gotten around to you. 

Title: Re: It’s “Stupid Is As Stupid Does” on Northeast Gas Prices
Post by: aubrey on January 17, 2018, 07:10:16 PM
Now, wj, you inquired about Chesapeake's past lawlessness and bad behavior in general. 

no I didn't, stop making things up.

and btw, frank, is my Aubrey. it elicits these comical rants you sometimes go on that amuse us so much.

wj