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Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses

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Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« on: January 10, 2018, 08:50:38 AM »
Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses

Andrew Cuomo is playing hunger games and using Trojan horses to empty out Upstate as he seeks to further increase his personal control over the Empire State.

http://naturalgasnow.org/andrew-cuomos-upstate-hunger-games-trojan-horses/



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Rockdale

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 09:46:48 AM »
At the time that the new casinos were first proposed New York was in the early stages of its idiotic shut down of the natural gas industry.  The casinos were offered as a form of sop for upstaters to at least partially make up for the money that wasn't flowing into the economy.  There still is time for those under performing casinos to improve their business revenues, but there is a very high probability that they never will hit the volumes of gambling that were used in the past in order to sell the idea and break down community resistance to them.  After all, there is only a limited portion of the population that is so simple minded as to think that they will win in gambling houses when all the odds are predetermined well ahead of time to insure that the house always wins in the long run.  Looking at the gambling "industry" overall, not just in upstate New York, I have to wonder that a lot if a lot of the money reported as gambling revenues really isn't money made by gangsters in various ways and being laundered through casinos.  All in all, a pathetic alternative to a legitimate and vital industry such as energy production.

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climber1

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 11:21:09 AM »
I agree Rock. The casinos are a lot like wind and solar at this point...capacity/potential vs actual production.

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Wax

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 11:51:44 AM »
At the time that the new casinos were first proposed New York was in the early stages of its idiotic shut down of the natural gas industry.  The casinos were offered as a form of sop for upstaters to at least partially make up for the money that wasn't flowing into the economy.  There still is time for those under performing casinos to improve their business revenues, but there is a very high probability that they never will hit the volumes of gambling that were used in the past in order to sell the idea and break down community resistance to them.  After all, there is only a limited portion of the population that is so simple minded as to think that they will win in gambling houses when all the odds are predetermined well ahead of time to insure that the house always wins in the long run.  Looking at the gambling "industry" overall, not just in upstate New York, I have to wonder that a lot if a lot of the money reported as gambling revenues really isn't money made by gangsters in various ways and being laundered through casinos.  All in all, a pathetic alternative to a legitimate and vital industry such as energy production.
I never thought I"d  see the day, of a $30.00 lottery ticket in a vending machine. Placed in a poor community, where most children, get free lunches at school. I guess its $30.00 and a dream ? The lottery system, takes more from those in need, than it gives. IMO

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Rockdale

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 01:25:24 PM »
I agree Rock. The casinos are a lot like wind and solar at this point...capacity/potential vs actual production.
>>>> It never fails to amaze me that so many people can't differentiate between the potential output of a solar or wind powered generation system and the actual output.  They will read an article telling them that a certain array of solar panels or wind farm has an output of such and such volume of power and yet not realize that those outputs are only good for optimum conditions such as a blazing sun at noon on a summer day or a stiff, steady turning a wind generator.  A world of difference between that and a gas powered electric plant putting out a steady and predictable amount of power.

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Rockdale

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 01:28:24 PM »
At the time that the new casinos were first proposed New York was in the early stages of its idiotic shut down of the natural gas industry.  The casinos were offered as a form of sop for upstaters to at least partially make up for the money that wasn't flowing into the economy.  There still is time for those under performing casinos to improve their business revenues, but there is a very high probability that they never will hit the volumes of gambling that were used in the past in order to sell the idea and break down community resistance to them.  After all, there is only a limited portion of the population that is so simple minded as to think that they will win in gambling houses when all the odds are predetermined well ahead of time to insure that the house always wins in the long run.  Looking at the gambling "industry" overall, not just in upstate New York, I have to wonder that a lot if a lot of the money reported as gambling revenues really isn't money made by gangsters in various ways and being laundered through casinos.  All in all, a pathetic alternative to a legitimate and vital industry such as energy production.
I never thought I"d  see the day, of a $30.00 lottery ticket in a vending machine. Placed in a poor community, where most children, get free lunches at school. I guess its $30.00 and a dream ? The lottery system, takes more from those in need, than it gives. IMO
>>>> Wax, with a few honorable exceptions most politicians readily sign on to the gambling bandwagon.  They know that those games of chance are in fact a hidden tax on the poor since it is only the poor sucker who plays them given the odds.

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Wax

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Re: Andrew Cuomo’s Upstate Hunger Games and Trojan Horses
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 01:51:24 PM »
"A world of difference between that and a gas powered electric plant putting out a steady and predictable amount of power."
It always reminds me of the guy pulling his suitcase thru the airport. He sits down at his terminal, and looks at his watch. The man sitting next to him can"t help but notice, he is watching a movie on his watch. He comments to the guy,that is quite the watch. The guy with the watch proceeds to show the man, his watch has a vast array of capabilities. The man says I will give you a thousand dollars for the watch. The offer is accepted. He takes off the watch and gives it to the man and starts walking away. The man than calls to him and says, 'you forgot your suitcase". He replies, that's the batteries to the watch. :) Solar & wind is a lot more support equipment, than what you see.