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Is Greta in your future?

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shinobi

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Is Greta in your future?
« on: October 09, 2019, 04:06:33 AM »
Don't laugh or make light of this.  If global warming alarmists get power, and if you want to sign a new lease or agree to a modification of your existing lease:

You might be required first to listen to a lecture by their anti-fossil fuel darling, Greta Thundberg.  Sweet Greta, for climate activists, is their infallible and worshipworthy Buddha.  Only President Trump today stands between us and possibly being talked down to by this sixteen year old Swedish nut case.



Climate activists believe this child has the right to enforce her views as to how we must live our lives.  All Democrats and too many Republicans are ready to support this belief.  Only President Trump stands as our bulwark against the incredibly high level of mental illness being experienced today by our opponents.

Do you want Greta and her backers running, and ruining, your life? 

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macal

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 08:35:14 AM »

  We got to tell Greta about natural gas.
  Pretty simple. Half the carbon of coal.
   No ash. No particulate. Very little nasty chemical emission. All fossil fuels are not the same.

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riverrat

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 09:37:00 AM »
I'd more worried about trust fund baby the wolf & his carbon tax

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macal

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 09:46:43 AM »

  The Shaleonaire and the trust fund baby. So the power plant companies would be responsible for the tax? Another advantage over coal.

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shinobi

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2019, 10:10:12 AM »

  We got to tell Greta about natural gas.
  Pretty simple. Half the carbon of coal.
   No ash. No particulate. Very little nasty chemical emission. All fossil fuels are not the same.

Greta and her worldwide supporters are already WELL aware of natural gas.  NG is the fossil fuel they fear the most and oppose most vigorously, precisely for the reasons you correctly stated.  What they are seeking, instead, is a world free of ALL carbon emissions regardless how stupid or impractical that outcome might be.

You already are aware of the strenuous opposition to our pipelines in New England, formulated by Greta-loving environmentalist extremists living there.  But did you know exactly the same thing is happening in Quebec?  Well, it is.  Political leaders in Quebec are ardently opposed to desperately-needed pipelines being laid across any region of their province whatsoever.  This came out in the Canadian leaders' debate.  Quebecers identify principally with France, and not at all with (for example) energy-producing Alberta.  France is part of Europe and the Europeans are all in on the anthropogenic global warming hoax.

Point is Greta's is a world-wide movement, growing, and aimed squarely at the best interests of ourselves as royalty owners and, for that matter, the USA generally and our energy independence.  Greta and her avid followers are woefully misguided, dangerous, and completely uncaring regarding the threat they represent to so many of us. 

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ghrit

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2019, 10:15:07 AM »
So the power plant companies would be responsible for the tax? Another advantage over coal.
Well, yes, maybe the powcoes will be responsible to pay the tax.  However, fifty cents to a bag of pretzels, it gets passed thru to the customer in the form of higher prices.  Now, if the usual rules of economics apply, the increased price will reduce demand, which in turn, will reduce tax revenue.  Reducing tax revenue will cause the taxes to increase to cover the shortfall.  Even socialists can see that spiral, even if they think they won't need to counter it before it's too late.

Now, you might ask that the tax enabling legislation be formulated to prevent the powcoes from passing the tax thru.  It takes very little imagination to see what plant and infrastructure maintenance won't get done.  Can you say "unplanned outages?"
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shinobi

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2019, 10:47:18 AM »
  Can you say "unplanned outages?"

What is happening in California right now, today, is stark evidence of the extent to which the environmentalist crazies already are running things.  Tens of thousands of CA people are being thrust literally right back into the early 1800's and, so effective has been their propaganda, that there is no pushback even close to the level of the outrage.

If Greta's followers obtain power, it will become no big deal to experience loss of electricity for several days . . . as now is happening in CA . . . since we will be "saving the planet".  It is all so nuts only a truly insane person would go along with such BS.


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macal

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2019, 11:06:44 AM »

  California has decided to not use any power that is generated by coal in the near term future. Good for gas.
  My understanding about the current outage has to do with maintenance on lines and ROWs to protect against starting forest fires.

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ghrit

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2019, 12:18:19 PM »

  California has decided to not use any power that is generated by coal in the near term future. Good for gas.
  My understanding about the current outage has to do with maintenance on lines and ROWs to protect against starting forest fires.
I believe that is an accurate understanding, tho' I don't know if they've already opened the breakers.  That said, the fuel used will not alter that sort of power interruption.
There are two kinds of ships.  Submarines and targets.
www.survivalmonkey.com

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duffy

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2019, 01:15:28 PM »
When power is bought off the grid, kind of hard to tell coal from nuclear or gas isn't it?

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shinobi

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2019, 02:06:08 PM »
It is possible my earlier post, regarding events in California, was misunderstood.  I will attempt to clarify:

Yes of course this several-day interruption, currently ongoing, is indeed unrelated to how the power was generated in the first place, coal-fired, NG-fired, or whatever.  That was not my point.

Point is the crazies have some people in a state of mind where power interruption is somehow acceptable.  I take continuous, uninterrupted, availability of electric power as a given of modern life . . . setting aside considerations of ice storms and the like where lines literally go down.  That is different.

But the lines in CA are up, intact, and fully functional.  With different leadership in Sacramento I expect an alternative solution would be forthcoming for the fire danger, something like intense monitoring and oversight of the lines, for example, while the Santa Ana winds are blowing.

But the current CA leadership does not consider alternatives.  To them turning off the power for several days is the way to go . . . . and the needs of the people be damned.  That is precisely the same sort of thinking needed to support their renewables wet dream, in which power interruptions are more likely to happen but (to them) are no big deal because they are "saving the planet".

100% malarkey.

     

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ghrit

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2019, 02:24:11 PM »


Point is the crazies have some people in a state of mind where power interruption is somehow acceptable. 

But the current CA leadership does not consider alternatives.  To them turning off the power for several days is the way to go . . . . and the needs of the people be damned.  That is precisely the same sort of thinking needed to support their renewables wet dream, in which power interruptions are more likely to happen but (to them) are no big deal because they are "saving the planet".

100% malarkey.

   
Bear in mind that those in the offices in Sacramento reflect the wishes and dreams of a majority of the electorate, not the ones with credible thinking capacity.  With the big concentrations of sheep and snowflakes in LA, SF and similar, it's no wonder (to me, anyway) that pie in the sky is what they think they are due, and what they expect their representatives to produce.  While I do NOT begrudge them living in the dark and heat or cold as they wish, I'd be delighted if they did NOT export their ideas.

matty, I truly do NOT give a mouse's hind end if our gas is not used in califraidia for the foreseeable future.  There's a small, vanishingly small, chance that there will be a wakeup call out there before we have to send our money out that way for a califraidia relief mission.
There are two kinds of ships.  Submarines and targets.
www.survivalmonkey.com

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macal

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2019, 03:11:30 PM »

  Plenty of nat gas out West here. Lots of coal also. Lets compete.

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ghrit

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There are two kinds of ships.  Submarines and targets.
www.survivalmonkey.com

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macal

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Re: Is Greta in your future?
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2019, 08:05:19 AM »

  The Greta movement is definitely in our future. This is not going away. We just have to sell them on natural gas. Science is on our side.