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Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« on: September 08, 2010, 06:44:48 AM »
Obama Nat Gas Endorsement a ?Game Changer?
Published: Wednesday, 2 Jun 2010 | 9:19 PM ET
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By: Tom Brennan
Web Editor, Mad Money

Cramer on Wednesday finally heard President Obama endorse natural gas in a way he?d never done before, mentioning what the Mad Money host sees as a viable alternative to crude oil in the same breath as nuclear energy.

?It?s a major game changer,? Cramer said during Stop Trading!.

Cramer has been talking up nat gas as a cleaner, cheaper, more plentiful fuel source that would help wean the US off its addiction to foreign oil, but his calls have gone largely unheard in Washington, specifically at the White House. That President Obama included natural gas in his speech today at Carnegie Mellon, in Pittsburgh, within the boundaries of the Marcellus Shale, is ?big,? Cramer said.

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 06:53:41 AM »


  I heard about that.  It's a nobrainer. He has to play it close to the vest because a lot of his supporters are enviros.

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 07:20:28 AM »
does he still have supporters  ???

if so, they must be delusional or simply in denial.

this clown's economic ideas make jimmy carter appear to be a genius.

those in his own party up for re-election aren't too smart but at least they are smart enough to run away from him for a chance.

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 07:35:31 AM »
This is a T.Boone interview.  I think that it is interesting that he thinks that there is no point in pursuing wind and solar energy until NatGas is above $6.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39047588

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 07:56:31 AM »
How could Kramer call it a "major game changer" when the Prez utters the forbidden words once every two years?

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 08:11:38 AM »
Mabey Obama said ''natural gas'' instead of ''na na natural gas'' this time. Little more believable without stuttering the words.   :-\

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 01:58:53 PM »
White House backs 4.4 Billion for NG cars

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/07/29/white-house-backs-4-4-billion-bill-for-natural-gas-electric-cars/


White House backs $4.4 billion bill for natural gas, electric-cars
Posted: Jul 29, 2010
Filed under: Hybrids, Green News, Industry News

President Barack Obama stands alongside Chevrolet Volt

In the latest indicator of the current administration?s dedication to green technology, the White House endorsed a plan by Senate Democrats to spend $4.4 billion on natural-gas-powered vehicle technology, and another $400 million on electric vehicles.

The money will be used to offer rebates for compressed natural gas vehicles, and additional electric vehicle efforts.

During his candidacy in 2008, President Obama urged for 1 million plug-in hybrids to be on the road by 2015, and has backed a number of efforts to effectuate that vision.

The original bill only contained funding for the natural-gas program, but it was at the behest of Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Lansing, that funding for electric vehicle technology was added. ?Natural gas is a good short-term bridge,? Stabenow said in an interview. ?When the initial bill had natural gas only, it was important to me to push to get the electric vehicle provisions in it.?

Though many details of the bill have been hashed out, it is not final and we could see a change in the split of funding between natural-gas and electric vehicle technologies. So far, the plan is to pay for the funding by increasing the per barrel fee by $.08, making the total fee $.49.

- By: Stephen Calogera

Source: Detroit News

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 03:41:12 PM »
I did not get a sense of overwhelming enthusiasm from the report, but I have to agree this would be game changer when passed.

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 04:35:31 PM »
http://www.transecoenergy.com/placed_images/pdf/Article%20US%20Gas%20Fields%20Bust%20to%20Boom.pdf

"The availability of natural-gas generation enables us to be much more courageous in charting a transition to a low-carbon economy," says Jason Grumet, executive director of the National Commission on Energy Policy, who was a senior adviser to President Obama during the campaign.

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 04:39:45 PM »
http://dpc.senate.gov/files_energybill/natural_gas_vehicles.pdf

Importance?Environment
The combustion of natural gas is substantially cleaner than the combustion of oil and gasoline. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has found that when natural gas vehicles are compared against vehicles powered by diesel that the natural gas vehicles:
? Produce half the particulate matter of average diesel vehicles;
? Significantly reduce carbon monoxide emissions;
? Reduce nitrogen oxide and volatile organic hydrocarbon emissions by 50 percent or more;

PREPARED BY THE SENATE DEMOCRATIC POLICY COMMITTEE DPC STAFF CONTACT: RYAN MULVENON

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 04:42:13 PM »
http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1047663_senate-energy-bill-for-natural-gas-vehicles-evs-get-less


Senate Energy Bill: $$$ for Natural-Gas Vehicles, EVs Get Less
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July 28th, 2010 If there's even a chance for the U.S. Congress to pass an energy bill this year, it's going to be a long and tortuous slog. But the first cut at legislation, introduced yesterday, offers $4 billion for infrastructure and subsidies for natural-gas vehicles (NGVs), but just a tenth of that for the same kinds of investments for plug-in vehicles. Rebates for NGV purchases The bulk of the natural-gas vehicle funding goes toward rebates of $10,000 to $4,000 for purchase of cars and trucks, including heavy-duty commercial vehicles, that are powered by compressed natural gas (CNG). While the only CNG car now sold in the U.S. is the Honda Civic GX, General Motors recently announced it would offer CNG conversions to fleet customers for its Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana full-size vans. The bill also offers cash grants of up to $50,000 to fund installation of the refueling infrastructure, including natural gas pumps. There's also money for the U.S. Department of Energy to make R&D and development grants. A final $200 million is allocated to loans to manufacturers making both CNG parts and vehicles themselves. $400 million for EVs The Clean Energy Jobs and Oil Accountability Act also includes the "Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010," which  dedicates $400 million to developing plug-in infrastructure and promoting adoption of the vehicles. The Electric Drive Transportation Association (EDTA) issued a statement that applauded the Senate's "acknowledgment" of plug-ins' ability to reduce U.S. oil dependence, cut greenhouse gas emissions, and build a clean energy sector economy. It also contained a longer appreciative nod to the 'Domestic Manufacturing and Energy Jobs Act of 2010,' release Monday by a House subcommittee, which also contains its own (and different) set of incentives. Those include investment in lithium-ion batteries, deployment incentives for medium- and heavy-duty hybrid and plug-in trucks, and updates to an expanded tax credit for alternative fuel infrastructure. EDTA president Brian Wynne said the trade group was "extremely pleased" that both houses had "issued key proposals that recognize the vital role...electric drive will play in our national energy policy." Miles to go Left unsaid were a couple of facts. First, it may be unlikely that an energy bill can be passed before the November elections. If those elections tilt one or both houses more Republican, that will likely either change the face of an energy bill or kill it altogether, at least in its current form. In other words, there's a lot of heavy lifting left, so this is just the first in a long and probably painful process of politicking. What both bill don't include: Any mechanism to raise the low U.S. cost of gasoline, which would lead car buyers to opt for more fuel-efficient vehicles. That would be a new tax. And, despite support from not only economists but the likes of Ford Motor chairman Bill Ford and others, it is viewed by elected officials as the rough equivalent of Congressionally mandated infanticide. In other words, no chance in hell. Ah, U.S. politics. [Detroit News]
 Toyota Prius at US Capitol, by Flickr user Izik

Toyota Prius at US Capitol, by Flickr user Izik
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If there's even a chance for the U.S. Congress to pass an energy bill this year, it's going to be a long and tortuous slog.

But the first cut at legislation, introduced yesterday, offers $4 billion for infrastructure and subsidies for natural-gas vehicles (NGVs), but just a tenth of that for the same kinds of investments for plug-in vehicles.

Rebates for NGV purchases

The bulk of the natural-gas vehicle funding goes toward rebates of $10,000 to $4,000 for purchase of cars and trucks, including heavy-duty commercial vehicles, that are powered by compressed natural gas (CNG).

 2010 Chevrolet Express

2010 Chevrolet Express
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While the only CNG car now sold in the U.S. is the Honda Civic GX, General Motors recently announced it would offer CNG conversions to fleet customers for its Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana full-size vans.

The bill also offers cash grants of up to $50,000 to fund installation of the refueling infrastructure, including natural gas pumps. There's also money for the U.S. Department of Energy to make R&D and development grants.

A final $200 million is allocated to loans to manufacturers making both CNG parts and vehicles themselves.

 Natural Gas Honda Civic at 2010 Denver Green Car Static Parade

Natural Gas Honda Civic at 2010 Denver Green Car Static Parade
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$400 million for EVs

The Clean Energy Jobs and Oil Accountability Act also includes the "Promoting Electric Vehicles Act of 2010," which  dedicates $400 million to developing plug-in infrastructure and promoting adoption of the vehicles.

The Electric Drive Transportation Association (EDTA) issued a statement that applauded the Senate's "acknowledgment" of plug-ins' ability to reduce U.S. oil dependence, cut greenhouse gas emissions, and build a clean energy sector economy.

It also contained a longer appreciative nod to the 'Domestic Manufacturing and Energy Jobs Act of 2010,' release Monday by a House subcommittee, which also contains its own (and different) set of incentives.

Those include investment in lithium-ion batteries, deployment incentives for medium- and heavy-duty hybrid and plug-in trucks, and updates to an expanded tax credit for alternative fuel infrastructure.

EDTA president Brian Wynne said the trade group was "extremely pleased" that both houses had "issued key proposals that recognize the vital role...electric drive will play in our national energy policy."

 2009 Honda Civic GX Natural Gas Vehicle logo

2009 Honda Civic GX Natural Gas Vehicle logo
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Miles to go

Left unsaid were a couple of facts. First, it may be unlikely that an energy bill can be passed before the November elections.

If those elections tilt one or both houses more Republican, that will likely either change the face of an energy bill or kill it altogether, at least in its current form.

In other words, there's a lot of heavy lifting left, so this is just the first in a long and probably painful process of politicking.

What both bill don't include: Any mechanism to raise the low U.S. cost of gasoline, which would lead car buyers to opt for more fuel-efficient vehicles.

That would be a new tax. And, despite support from not only economists but the likes of Ford Motor chairman Bill Ford and others, it is viewed by elected officials as the rough equivalent of Congressionally mandated infanticide.

In other words, no chance in hell. Ah, U.S. politics.

[Detroit News]

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 04:46:00 PM »
http://pittsburgh.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/blog/energy/2010/08/natural_gas_vehicles_get_a_boost_from_senates_new_energy_bill.html

Earlier this year, EQT Corp., Giant Eagle and two other organizations in the Pittsburgh area got funding from the state Department of Environmental Protection for alternative fuel projects.

Some of that money will go toward building public compressed natural gas vehicle refueling stations. There are none in the area, as this addictive interactive map from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory shows.


Read more: Natural Gas vehicles get a boost from Senate's new energy bill - Pittsburgh Business Times

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Re: Obama did say the NG word: June 2010
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2011, 12:23:46 PM »
CNG fueling station in Pittsburgh's Strip District

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/blog/energy/2011/01/eqt-courting-1500-vehicles-to-switch.html?ed=2011-01-05&s=article_du&ana=e_du_pub

"EQT hopes to have the fueling station open by the second quarter of 2011." It's about time for Equitable to make this move.
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